Wednesday, July 4, 2012

Why Multi-Site Churches are Dangerous (and maybe even a bad idea)



          The question has recently been raised in Christian circles regarding multi-site churches. For a while, it seemed, the notion of doubling your church community rather than splitting it in two (as with a church plant) was a novel idea, and we all went along with it. But, as with most things, we started asking questions a little too late. The Cool-Aid’s on our lips and we’re just starting to wonder if it was a good idea or not.
         The central question in the discussion is whether or not multi-site churches are reflective of the Lord’s intentions for the Church as expressed in His Word. There is no doubt that there are many multi-site churches that  are Gospel-centered and see people growing in Jesus and meeting Him for the first time. Rather, the primary question I come away asking is, Why? The question could be asked of many statements made by James MacDonald and Mark Driscoll in the previously posted video conversation between them and Mark Dever. I particularly want to ask, why multi-site? What necessitates it? And what are the benefits and potential downfalls of such an approach to being the Church?
         Though I could rant on and on about the pettiness of Driscoll and MacDonald’s approach to the conversation, their mutual ego-stroking, and their refusal to even let a pastor that has been in ministry since they were in high school finish his sentence, I won’t (okay … so I did…). Instead, I want throw my two cents on the table, and address the question, Why multi-site? 
         Before I do, let me just say, I am far too opinionated for my own good. I am feisty and hotheaded and stubborn. I am blunt and unedited and sometimes offensive. And I take my own opinions far too seriously. It’s all quite terrible, really.
           Okay. Now that I’m properly disclaimed, let’s get on with it, shall we?
           We were asking the question: Why multi-site?
There seems, to me, to be no reasonable answer to the question because it begs the further questions, Why not autonomous church plants, and, Why does the church’s vitality rest on a particular man being in the pulpit? Perhaps a multi-site pastor would respond that he is a more effective a preacher than one that could be raised up locally, or already has a positive reputation which others will respect and listen to ( … I’ll address Christian celebrities in a bit). I would call into question the notion that pastors can be ranked at all, and especially by such measures. Granted, there are preachers that are clearly gifted communicators, and I don’t diminish the natural ability and gifting by God by any means. What I do frown upon is the control that is insisted upon by a pastor who believes that only he can do the preaching, those he has convinced to agree with him, and those who have convinced him of such a prideful stance by their exorbitant praise.
This kind of self-glorification denounces the average preacher, the man who is a faithful preacher of the Word without the flashy stuff of eloquent speech, and robs him of his calling to minister the Word of God to the congregation. It tells him to get out of the way (actually, out of the pulpit for that matter) so that they can set up the big screen on which the big name pastor from the big city will teach the local body.
Thabiti Anyabwile, a pastor in the Cayman Islands and a member with The Gospel Coalition, recently wrote on the topic of multi-site churches, and said the following:
Try as one might, I can’t escape the conclusion that those who take the multi-site option are effectively saying, “My preacher is better than your preacher, so we’re gonna brand him and export him to a theater near you.” 
Christians do not believe in celebrity pastors. We don’t. Or at least we shouldn’t. When we do, we tread the dangerous territory of beginning to see the Church as a marketplace, a place that does not distinguish itself from the fallen world around her. Pastor Anyabwile followed by saying:
Our hearts easily gravitate toward entertainment and celebrity when the preaching event gets broadcast on screen rather than shared in flesh and blood.  The same equations that drive our movie and actor choices now drive our preacher and church choices.
Just like everything else, now preaching can also be outsourced to the “professionals”. We’re building bigger warehouses, setting up bigger screens, and calling it the Church.
I dare to say the most disturbing portion of this conversation is the first 36 seconds:

MacDonald: “So, hey, Mark, how many sights at your church?”
Driscol: “Ten hoping to open 11 this summer.”
M: “Great and how many services?”
D: “24 ish…?”
M: “Yeah, we got 5 sites going to 6, 13 going to 15 weekend services. more than 10,000 people in both of our services. Hundreds and hundreds of decisions for Christ each year…”

Should it not shock us that a conversation about ecclesiology between three well-studied pastors begins with a question such as, “How many”? It’s disturbing, if I can be frank, and wholly inappropriate for believers. We, as Christians, must insist that the Church is not ranked by her numbers, nor should we confuse size with growth. To in some way imply that large churches are good churches is dangerous. I don’t care if you give me a body of water 16 miles wide; I’m still not going diving until you tell me if it’s a pool or a puddle.
         Overall, the current obsession with numbers in general is problematic. The Scriptures tell us that unbelievers will flock to hear what their ears are itching to hear rather than the sound doctrine of the Gospel (2 Tim. 4:3). It seems apparent, then, that when a church has people flocking to it, we need to start asking some serious questions.*
But that is not what we see happening, is it? Instead, we grant churches social status by the number of her attendants. We have programs and pastors that boast, “We have this many” or “We are this big”. We should be significantly disturbed when a conversation about size between pastors closely resembles one you might overhear in the local high school boy’s locker room.
This is again evidenced by MacDonald’s statement concerning the raising up of new preachers. A preacher that is just starting can have the church with two or three hundred, and the guy that has developed can have the church with two or three thousand. Is that how we quantify? It is fundamentally inappropriate to speak of a bigger church as the reward for those who get A’s in preaching class, leaving the “lesser” churches for those who got B’s and C’s.
         A primary issue that is not included in this conversation is the embodied nature of pastoring (I would go so far as to say preaching is essentially embodied, but I don’t want to risk loosing your ear at this venture. So, instead, let’s paint broad strokes…). The role of pastor is, broadly, to be involved in the lives of the congregants in such a way as to lead them into holiness by word and deed. While this looks differently for different local bodies, this generally takes form through interpersonal conversations, administering the sacraments, and preaching.
         But now move the preaching onto the big screen, and all is muddied. The one who is to be shepherding you is pixilated and recorded. There is nobody (literally, no body) in the pulpit, and if you have questions about his sermon you must see the guy assigned to your site.
         The Church, in good form, is once again following culture in an attempt to be relevant. However, we have also neglected to ask good questions of the culture we are following. In a culture that is slipping more and more into an online world, we have adopted the “as if” language of our generation (We buy online and it’s “as if” we went shopping. We have facebook friends that we chat with “as if” we were friends and “as if” we were having a conversation, etc). The man on the screen is a man we may have never neither met, nor seen in person, nor lived in the same city as us. But it’s “as if” he is our pastor. (You can even take communion and baptism online now. Seriously. Google it.)
         In a recent email conversation with one of my professions, she made this stunning assessment:

I'm concerned that as evangelicals, we do not have an adequate theology of the body, and that we are going to need to acquire one as our culture moves increasingly into cyberspace.  We are in danger of vanishing down the rabbit hole, as it were, if we don't remember that a key part of our humanity is that we are embodied beings.

It is a key part of our humanity, as well as a key part of the ministry of preaching. Take, for instance, McDonald’s reasoning for church planting:

The reason I’m planting a church in Kansas City and in North Carolina and Miami and Minneapolis and wherever is because I don’t have a thing there. I don’t have any influence….and where I have a lot of influence, if I can, in my lifetime, cash that influence, and I believe people will come here me where I’ve built up a reputation…

         Now, to be fair, here MacDonald is talking about church planting rather than multi-site churches, and from what I gather of his practice of church planting, I don’t disagree (in that it’s the mission of the Church and it is an evangelistic act). It’s the underlying narcissism that is improper for the Church. Listen again to what he’s saying here: “The reason I’m planning a church [there] is because I don’t have a thing there.” A thing? What I believe he means is there is not, in those locations, a local body of believers that are under his influence (and that is a gracious interpretation, if I may). This language is beginning to pervade the Church in a strikingly unholy way. The gathering of believers to hear a sermon has, in this conversation, been boiled down to one man’s gig and how he can literally cash in his influence.
         The reason he doesn’t have “a thing” there is because he doesn’t live there. He doesn’t know the names and faces and sins and struggles and relationships and babies of the people who are a part of “his” church. And, in my opinion, he shouldn’t have a thing where he doesn’t have a life. Or, to put it more bluntly, he shouldn’t have a “ministry” where he doesn’t have a ministry.
While MacDonald and Driscoll continue to pat each other on the back, the topic of consumerism is brought up. Dever asks Driscoll if part of what he is doing as a preacher is responding to the audience. Though I must comment on his poor choice of the word “audience”, his question is a fair one, and Driscoll’s answer couldn’t be farther from disappointing. His response: No. He’s a total introvert. When he’s preaching, all he’s trying to do is enjoy the Scriptures and say what God puts on his heart.
And perhaps we’ve hit the root of the discussion: what is preaching? Is preaching an isolated act? And can it be considered an introverted practice? I dare to say that that is absolutely contrary to what is inherent in the act of preaching. When we stop responding to the congregation, we stop asking the question of what fruit a sermon bears in the life of believers. When we stop asking what fruit a sermon bears in the life of believers, we allow for a great distance to be put between the sermon and the hearer. And if we grant permission to the preacher to not consider the hearer, we grant permission to the hearer to not consider the preacher.
And this is fundamentally anti-church. I know its strong language, but think about it. What is the Church? What is she for? What does she do? Is not preaching a central piece of it all – the Word of God expounded and the believer’s receiving, believing, and accepting? As soon as we start isolating the pastor from the people, all seams begin to rend, and the Church is no longer able to live like the Church. When we put someone on the big screen we are making a statement about what it means to have a “good Church”, and we fall in line with the rest of society that sets a hierarchy in place based on popularity.
Let me end. (Gosh, if only I was paid to blog or made a grade doing it or something.) I think multi-site churches are self-centered and self-glorifying. They strip the Church of her primary embodied nature, and fall all to readily into the “as if” culture that surrounds her. I believe that we should, instead, be raising up pastors in the local body, training young men and women for ministry, and planting autonomous churches where they are needed. This seems to be the way of the Gospel to me.   

*I am in no way indicating that Driscoll or MacDonald’s churches do not preach the Gospel. On the contrary, I believe they do. I am simply making a broad theological statement that applies to the consumerist focused churches at large.



6 comments:

  1. hey amy, long time no see.

    i had a couple things that i'd like to hear your opinion on. i agree with a lot of the points you brought up, especially with the move away from personal relationships in the church, and the celebration of certain pastors who are especially good at communicating.

    anyway, the question i'd like to raise is: what is the difference between churches dividing into church plants and churches dividing into small groups? my point being that when churches start to grow, personal relationships become more difficult, and churches compensate by instituting small groups with leaders (who should, in my opinion, be able to fulfill the role of elder or pastor). this model seems to be taken over to the idea of multi-sites, where a church divides and sets up an elder board at each campus.

    my second point that i'd like to raise is: why have multiple churches? i live in dallas, and there are a great many churches that have similar doctrine and vision, so why are they not connected? the church is called to be united, and my perception of the new testament church is that there is one "church" in each city, that meets in different houses, but seem to have a common leadership of elders (i could be wrong; please point out if i am). this seems to me to be the model of multi-site churches, and is the model of "normal" churches.

    like i said, i definitely agree with a lot of your points. if a person should be allowed to preach to a smaller congregation, why not to a larger congregation? there should be a threshold of doctrinal certainty, and then let 'em go. and the problem with numbers is a constant battle for the church, as we struggle to show we are effective (as if we need to).

    i'd love to hear your thoughts.

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  2. Chris,

    First of all, so good to hear from you! We must catch up soon.

    Second of all, I really appreciate the thoughtful points you raised. You think well, friend, and I enjoyed thinking through it the last two days. Though I don’t claim to have any definitive answers on the topic, I do have some thoughts and, perhaps, some counter questions.

    To your first point about churches dividing into church plants and churches dividing into small groups, I would say there is a significant difference. When churches begin to grow, you’re right: they appoint other leaders over different factions of the Body (similar to the leadership Moses appointed with the judges). The difference between church plants and small groups though is great. In a church plant, a new structure of elder-pastors are appointed – some to administrate, some to lead worship, some to preach, some to counsel … you get the idea. In a church plant, an entire new, autonomous (in the sense that it is separate and self-perpetuating) system of leadership is put in place to govern and guide the Body with authority and care. In a small group, we see something much different. While a leader may be appointed to guide a study through the Scriptures and, perhaps, care for the spiritual needs of those in the group, he or she has, in no way, been given authority similar to that of a preacher; at no point will a small group leader make decisions that affect the entire local Body, he or she does not receive the money tithed to the church as payment for their efforts. I think the contrasting setting for the two gives us insight into the amount of authority granted – one is a single man, standing in a single pulpit, with a single microphone; the other is a man or woman (or two or three) sitting in a circle, in a living room, granting all a voice in the conversation. All in all, I don’t think we can see their leadership as the same in many ways at all.

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    1. To your second point about having one, unified church in each given city: again, I appreciate your thoughtful on this topic. I honestly hadn’t thought through it in that way before. Here are some of my preliminary thoughts on it: while you are right in saying that is the New Testament model we see in Acts, I don’t think the purpose of the book of Acts is to give us a how-to guide for church structure. Luke, in my opinion, did not write the book to give us guidelines for church governance; rather, when read with the gospel of Like, it becomes clear that he is pointing to the works of Christ and emphasizing His miraculous works. I don’t think we should “read between the lines” of Acts, finding where it hints of the technicalities of the church in his day. If we do so, I think we’ll miss the point.

      That said, I absolutely think local churches in the same city should work together, as should the global church seek unity together as the one Body of Christ. However, there is a difference between sharing a local park for an event and sharing a governing leadership team. The Body needs to know who leads them. We need faces and hands and voices to go with it. We need to know where their offices are and the names of their children. We need leadership to be embodied and present with us, if we are to grant them authority in our lives in a way that is reflective of the authority they have as a church leader.

      The problem I then take with multi-site churches is a theological one, centering around the issue of embodiment and authority. The two, embodiment and authority, are intimately intertwined, as evidenced in the fact that multi-site churches set up local authority because the preacher on the screen is not embodied. This creates huge theological problems with regards to preaching – suddenly, preaching and authority are separate. And in one foul swoop, preaching is no longer the authoritative expounding of God’s Word.

      Embodiment and authority go hand in hand – like parents standing in front of the cookie jar, like police cars with speed radars, like teachers in the room during the final. Cookies are there for the taking when mom’s gone, speeding is hardly notices until you see the cop on the side of the road, and cheating comes easily when the teacher leaves the room even for a moment. And this is the issue I take with multi-site; by lacking embodiment we are attempting to strip preaching of it’s physical presence while retaining it’s authority.

      Does that make sense? Chris, I would love to hear your thoughts on this. I love how you think and respect your perspective. So … keep the conversation going, if you’d like.

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  3. Amy, I'm amazed that you were awake at 6:15 in the morning to write your previous two responses. I also appreciated your post and am glad I'm not the only one out there with a somewhat conservative ecclesiology.

    In (unasked for) response to Chris' second question, it's not entirely clear that there was only 1 church in each city in the NT. This certainly seems to be the case most of the time, even though there it can be asked whether this was meant as a rule or was simply the basic reality since most of these churches were quite small (small enough to meet in one persons home, see Rom 16:23). I personally think there might well have been multiple churches in Rome though. Romans is not addressed to "the church in Rome" but only to the saints in Rome (Rom 1:7). Then when you get to the end of the letter it seems like Prisca and Aquila certainly hosted a house church in Rome (16:5), which might well have not been the whole church. The groups of people listed in 16:14 and then the other group in 16:15 might have been other house churches in Rome. Are there ways to unite these churches? Certainly (like denominations). But I doubt it should be made a rule that a city like NYC should only have one church (how would anyone know anyone?).

    Back to where my rambling was leading me. I like all of the guys in this video and think they all do faithful gospel ministry, but this video seemed to me like the classic case of 2 alpha males teaming up on the other guy and beating him up with rhetoric and not with substance. This even leads to some pretty terrible arithmetic when Dever says he has about 75 open preaching slots per year in his church. Driscoll says he has 300 and has Dever "beat". However, he kindly fails to notice that by Dever's count that would be 300 over at least 10 or maybe 11 sites, so 30 per site (which in Dever's mind would be 30 slots per church). I wonder though, if you count the number of churches that Dever/Capitol Hill Baptist help plant, how many open preaching slots Dever has then. Dever clearly has Driscoll "beat" on the ratio of open slots. (75%/year open for Dever, 25%/year for Driscoll)

    Anyways, that, along with this whole comment was very rant-ish. I'm still convinced by some of the almost stupid-obvious type of arguments for single site churches, such as the fact that pastors should shepherd the flock that is "among them" (1 Pet 5:2). I think that means they should actually be able to recognize them. Jesus, the chief Shepherd and thus the model for the church elder, certainly knows the names of his sheep (Jn 10:3,14).

    Alright, I guess that was just a long and hopeless way of saying I appreciated the post and I just committed the classic seminarian fault of ranting on a topic that bears little to no direct relation to my everyday life (ah the irony). On a side note, way to go GCTS grad for holding down the old school ecclesiology.

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  4. Good counterpoints. You’re making my brain hurt working through these points. It’s probably good for me...

    To your response of my first point, Amy: is it too much to ask a small group leader to function in the form of an elder or pastor? I think practically the answer is yes, but ideally? You bring up the point that "at no point will a small group leader make decisions that affect the entire local Body, [and] he or she does not receive the money tithed to the church as payment for their efforts." Is this any different from an elder who is not employed by the church? No one elder makes a decision that affects the entire local body, as this is something decided by a plurality (ideally), and not every elder receives a paycheck from the church for their service. Further, you suggest that a preacher is granted more authority, but on what basis? I think the difference between the two settings is not an issue of authority, but of teaching style: one is lecture, the other discussion. A professor can utilize both of these methods, yet still retains the same amount of authority in the class as the expert on the subject.

    To your second response, and Erik’s response, I'll agree that that we shouldn't take a description in the NT as a prescription for how we should do things today. However, I'm still convinced that there seems to be a city wide "church" in each city during the NT. This seems to be perpetuated in the early church where a bishop resides over each city. You are right in saying, Erik, that Prisca and Aquilla hosted a “church” at their home. I think the problem here is where do we draw the definition line of “church”; is it simply a gathering, or is it a gathering under the leadership of a plurality of elders. The model I am suggesting would work, as it appears to me to work in the NT, is that in a single city, there is a plurality of elders that work in conjunction for the city wide church of that area. Obviously, in a place like NYC, Dallas, Chicago, or anywhere with a large number of Christians, not everyone can meet in one place at one time, and here I would suggest the model of church sites.

    And finally, Amy, to your theological point. I don’t believe embodiment and ultimate authority must go hand in hand. We no longer have Jesus walking in out midst, yet when we preach, we hope to preach with heavenly authority. To borrow from your analogies, the cop doesn’t establish the rules of the road; he merely testifies and enforces them. In the same way, the local authority of a church site assent to the authority of the preaching and are involved with the people of their specific site to provide guidance and church discipline.

    I guess I would ask this further question: would you be more open to a system of a multi site church where the preaching done at each site was done by a campus pastor, working through the same series, with a unified vision and leadership?

    And I’d like to stress, I am by no means infallible. Please point out if something doesn’t follow in my line of thinking.

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